Need to hear something uplifting? Listen to what David Staples has to say on a Daily Telegraph podcast

Christopher Hope is his name; Choppers’ Politics the name of his podcast – but he’s strayed off topic for a strictly non-political segment by interviewing Dr David Staples, our Grand Secretary. 

In this five-minute spot you’ll hear what Dr Staples has to say about our response to the pandemic on a national stage; about handshakes; and about the way we Freemasons strive to live our lives. It’s a real tonic against the backdrop of bad news, hype, and spin we hear continuously, as he tells is simply ‘like it is’. Listen for yourself at this link.

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